ok i went and raised this to see if this is what my problem was... and apparently its not because i raised it from 1024 to 10,000 and...
[12:59am] -ChanServ- /msg ChanServ HELP AOP for more information.
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[12:59am] -ChanServ- Sorry, you can only have 10000 AOP/SOP/VOP entries on a channel.
now i know there is not one single AOP or SOP on this channel because i just made it so there is no reason for it to do this?