Your completely missing my point katsklaw.
+q (owner) does NOT mean Founder, founder is LEVEL 10000, which can't be set.
+q does not give the user any special privileges that the channel founder would have, what i want is a new LEVEL for AUTOOWNER (which obviously can't be added til after 1.
again, owner, not founder, there is a big difference.
this way you can have multiple people with +q channel status, instead of having to use a hack module that hard codes in a special level (default of 9999) and gives +q in addition to +ao that normal anope gives
its really annoying that you can automatically give all the channel status modes in both XOP and LEVELS except for +q
i'm currently using cs_accessfounder which technically should be named cs_accessowner since it does NOT give founder status, only +q
this module has a lot of crappy bugs, that could probably be fixed, but it would still be just a hack module, which is why i'd really like to see this feature built into the core